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The TV Thread (GoT spoilers)

Klaus

Rex

😃 so many happies!

QuincyAbeyie

Hannibal is great television, but I felt that in season 2 they took their "look how brilliant we are with all our symbolism" thing a little too far.

Rex

Well, I disagree.

QuincyAbeyie

I thought you would.

Justified returned this week. Think it was a good episode myself. It was at its best during season 2-3 imo, but still better than most shows. 🙂

Timbob

Tried that Sons of Anarchy what you lot are always banging on about. The lead actor is that dickhead from Green Streets FFS! He can't act at all, so it's completely unwatchable.

Klaus

Sons of Anarchy is pretty much unwatchable post season 4. Such absolute fucking tripe.

Klaus

And season 3 was horseshit too, come think of it. Was any of it even remotely good past the first two seasons?

Rex

Have Rectify season 2 on dl now. 🙂

Burnwinter

Klaus wrote:
And season 3 was horseshit too, come think of it. Was any of it even remotely good past the first two seasons?

Pretty much no? I'm not sure why I kept watching. The final episode was hilariously awful. Much roadside crow. Many reconciliation with father's death. Very sacrifice. Wow.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Hannibal is great television, but I felt that in season 2 they took their "look how brilliant we are with all our symbolism" thing a little too far.

You're right. Making Marvel look bad: unacceptable.

That trailer :drool: best looking show on teev by a mile.

Klaus

Burnwinter™ wrote:
Klaus wrote:
And season 3 was horseshit too, come think of it. Was any of it even remotely good past the first two seasons?

Pretty much no? I'm not sure why I kept watching. The final episode was hilariously awful. Much roadside crow. Many reconciliation with father's death. Very sacrifice. Wow.

Yeah. I binge watched the final two seasons just to get closure. It still felt like a terrible waste of time. For all his twitter feuds with what he perceives to be industry phonies, Sutter wouldn't know what creative talent looked like if it walked up to him and shat in his face.

Burnwinter™ wrote:
That trailer :drool: best looking show on teev by a mile.

Not sure if you're familiar with Fuller's other shows Burnsy, but you should definitely check them out otherwise. They're all similarly gorgeous from a visual point of view. Pushing Daisies is the most approachable of the bunch, but Dead Like Me is the best one by far. Wonderfalls would probably have topped them all if given a chance, but they only made 14 episodes (and only managed to air 4 of them) before Fox pulled the plug unfortunately. That single season is pure brilliance though. Caroline Dhavernas and Lee Pace are playing the main characters.

Burnwinter

Nope, I'm not familiar with any of those—I think I knew Fuller did Pushing Daisies but that's about it.

Is anyone keeping up with The Strain and is it good?

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter™ wrote:
You're right. Making Marvel look bad: unacceptable.

I hope that was a joke. 🙂 In case it wasn't: I don't go all "Oh, you just think The Equalizer is stupid just because it makes The Hunger Games look bad" every time you don't like something. I also criticize Marvel stuff I don't like. I really hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me for thinking that deer takes up too much screen time on Hannibal.

Klaus

I watched the first season of The Strain. It starts off great, then has a big dip for 4-5 episodes, but it comes back strongly in the end. Definitely worth it if you plan on binge watching. People who have read the books tell me that the next season will crank everything up a notch. I think that sounds promising.

QuincyAbeyie

Klaus wrote:
People who have read the books tell me that the next season will crank everything up a notch. I think that sounds promising.

People say that about Game of Thrones too though, and I still think season 1 is the best one. But of course, better than if they'd say that it didn't get better.

Burnwinter

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
I hope that was a joke. 🙂 In case it wasn't: I don't go all "Oh, you just think The Equalizer is stupid just because it makes The Hunger Games look bad" every time you don't like something. I also criticize Marvel stuff I don't like. I really hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me for thinking that deer takes up too much screen time on Hannibal.

Of course it was a joke.

Klaus

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Klaus wrote:
People who have read the books tell me that the next season will crank everything up a notch. I think that sounds promising.

People say that about Game of Thrones too though, and I still think season 1 is the best one. But of course, better than if they'd say that it didn't get better.

My gut feeling is that the real stength of A Song of Ice and Fire (as well as its biggest disadvantage, it appears) lies in the medium of literature though. Putting it simple: it's easier to write an 800 page book with 30 interwoven plot threads than it is to create a 10 episode tv season spanning the same stuff where every ep has an upper time limit of 55 minutes. (Then again, it's also easier to lose control over the scope completely, which seems to be what happened to George RR Martin.)

You don't have quite the same problem when you adapt a story about how vampires are worming their way through Manhattan on road to world domination.

Klaus

There's a clever worm pun in that last sentence that only people who've watched the show will get, by the way. I'm pointing it out myself because I know no one else will.

banduan

Is that a pun cos Manhattan sounds like worm or worm sounds like worm?

Rex

I don't think Martin had a proper idea how things would pan out when he sat down to put his ideas on paper. The only explanation I can think of why he introduces so many characters and then kills them off. His way of dealing with poorly thought through ideas. 🙂

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