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The TV Thread (GoT spoilers)

Klaus

Season 2 of Arrow was absolutely stellar. Some of the best television I've seen in ages. I loved Manu Bennet. I think the series needs to keep that darker tone, though, and develop it rather than suppressing it, because that's what made it so appealing. I don't want a return to season 1 where Laurel and Tommy were eating up screentime with all their boring, unrelatable problems (seriously, they had like a 10-episode arch about Tommy's trust fund being cut off so he was forced to finally find a job at the age of 34).

invisibleman18

Yeah there was a bit much of the teen drama in season 1 but season 2 was one of the best seasons of anything I've seen. Was lucky enough to meet Manu Bennet and David Ramsey (Diggle) in Wellington earlier this year.

Klaus

That's cool! Some kind of convention, I take it? I've been a big fan of Bennet since Spartacus. He doesn't quite get the recognition he deserves as an actor.

invisibleman18

Yeah it was Armageddon Expo which an annual sort of comic/sci-fi/fantasy etc convention where they get a few stars from those kind of shows and films to do Q&A sessions and photos and autographs etc. They also got the guy who plays Deadshot so they had an Arrow panel discussion. Also got to try out the Oculus Rift there.

Gazza M

i hope manu bennet gets more work. he has a fantastic presence and intensity on screen. been great in everything i've seen him in.

QuincyAbeyie

Manu Bennet was probably the best thing about Spartacus after Andy Whitfield.

Jens

I found Spartacus aboslutely atrocious. Got about half way in the first season and my mind couldn't take anymore drivel. Just looked it up to find it has a 8,7 on IMDB which is quite shocking to me, if the show keeps going like the stuff I've seen.

QuincyAbeyie

It's definitely not for everybody. You have seen the worst part of the season, but if you didn't like it at all, you probably won't like the last part either. Even though some of the later episodes are truly epic. One of the best parts, speaking of Manu Bennet:
(Crixus screaming "Kill them! Kill them all!")

TV series usually have higher ratings than an equally good movie, though. The reason is of course quite simple. If you watch a bad movie, you usually finish the movie regardless and rate it. If you watch an episode of a show you don't like, you don't continue and maybe you don't rate it either since you haven't seen much. The ones who do rate TV series are mostly the ones who stick with them. I myself haven't rated a TV series lower than 7/10 on IMDB, because I only watch shows I like.

Jens

The TV series vs movies on IMDB is an excellent point. Never thought about it that way.

I am an avid reader of Roman history and not turned off by violence so I thought I might like it but I found it very shoddy. HBO's Rome, though a flawed show in it's own right, is for me far superior.

Rex

So, I've heard The Knick is the shit. Dat tru?!

Gazza M

Rampage wrote:
I found Spartacus aboslutely atrocious. Got about half way in the first season and my mind couldn't take anymore drivel. Just looked it up to find it has a 8,7 on IMDB which is quite shocking to me, if the show keeps going like the stuff I've seen.

it didnt hook me until episode 5, looked bog average telemovie fare up to then. if you finish season 1 and still think its drivel, fair play. i doubt you will though. john hannah, andy whitfield, lucy lawless, and manu bennet are all great in it. ive read and watched alot about late-republican rome as well. the hbo show rome was great and the more authentic of the two, but by the end of its run spartacus surpassed it for me. the finale was white knuckle stuff, even though you kind of knew what was going to happen

@ Rex - the knick was very good, but kind of peaked a few episodes before the end. worth checking out though. id put peaky blinders in the same category.

Rex

Cheers, Gazza.

Segway

Just finished Louie season 4. Love that show.

Shady

It's been a very rocky season for Sons of Anarchy, but it lets set for a pulsating conclusion.

The latest episode was very emotional. Charlie Hunnam was outstanding. Jax's pain was palpable.

goon

The Leftovers any good?

Jens

Shady Shakes wrote:
It's been a very rocky season for Sons of Anarchy, but it lets set for a pulsating conclusion.

The latest episode was very emotional. Charlie Hunnam was outstanding. Jax's pain was palpable.

This episode was strong and the finish should be good, but it's not enough to save the season overall, and the feeling that this show has jumped the shark in a big way for three seasons now.

Looking back Sons of Anarchy feels like a show that had five good seasons in it. The Clay/Jax power struggle with Gemma as the wild card connected to both was always the most intruiging part of the show. They did mostly everything right with the storyline in the first four seasons, buliding it slow and steady before giving Jax the gavel in the season four finale. From there they should have done one more season to wrap it up in spectacular fashion. Now that would have been a great show. Instead they chose to plow on to keep the high ratings of an established show and jeopardize the quality. I don't mind Nero as a character but he is a symbol of the show running out of steam after losing it's star performer Ron Perlman, who should have been the antagonist right until the end.

Biggus

Rampage wrote:
The TV series vs movies on IMDB is an excellent point. Never thought about it that way.

I am an avid reader of Roman history and not turned off by violence so I thought I might like it but I found it very shoddy. HBO's Rome, though a flawed show in it's own right, is for me far superior.

Have you seen the 1976 BBC series I Claudius Rampage?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074006/

Meatwad

even Arrow taking shots at the Arsenal ... Roy stay losing, he's losing more than diggLe.

Qwiss

Rampage wrote:
Shady Shakes wrote:
It's been a very rocky season for Sons of Anarchy, but it lets set for a pulsating conclusion.

The latest episode was very emotional. Charlie Hunnam was outstanding. Jax's pain was palpable.

This episode was strong and the finish should be good, but it's not enough to save the season overall, and the feeling that this show has jumped the shark in a big way for three seasons now.

Looking back Sons of Anarchy feels like a show that had five good seasons in it. The Clay/Jax power struggle with Gemma as the wild card connected to both was always the most intruiging part of the show. They did mostly everything right with the storyline in the first four seasons, buliding it slow and steady before giving Jax the gavel in the season four finale. From there they should have done one more season to wrap it up in spectacular fashion. Now that would have been a great show. Instead they chose to plow on to keep the high ratings of an established show and jeopardize the quality. I don't mind Nero as a character but he is a symbol of the show running out of steam after losing it's star performer Ron Perlman, who should have been the antagonist right until the end.

What was the season in NI, season 3 was it? Thats when it started going to pot. And before that it was never even great but at least it was fun. Making the episodes longer was the real death sentence for it. Who wants another montage backed with Gemma singing?

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Think they've ruined it as well myself.

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