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Bold Tone

jones wrote:
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Plus he's making babies week in week out ...

eh?

jones

Bold Tone wrote:
jones wrote:
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Plus he's making babies week in week out ...

eh?

He's been doing that pacifier celebration for a few years now

tazmania

Brilliant assist straight from Ozil's playbook

dreamlord

innervisionscm wrote:
On second watch, Campbell didn't actually do that much today.

Yes but he performed where it counted - by setting up Giroo.

This is Ox's 4th season with us, but he was a better player when he first came here. Campbell's overtaken him all right.

Segway

That assist yesterday...

I am Arsenal Till I Die

Best thing about his performance is,it probably added a few million pounds to his transfer value for the summer.

Kel Varnsen

He's great in short bursts, but his overall impact is far too small. Hopefully he can contribute to a few goals in the coming weeks and defend well.

Claudius

which game were people watching? this guy was one of our best yesterday. absolutely on the money as a winger. he killed attacks on their left flank, tracking back and making good tackles as far back as our corner flag. he was always positive going forward, attempting lots of clever passes and doing a good job of switching play to the other wing when we were overloaded on the right. this guy was fantastic yesterday.

yuv

I don't get the cynical comments - is it a difficulty to accept we were underestimating him? people forget they're not the manager - nobody risks being sacked if they were wrong 🙂 . Besides - isn't that what we're here for - talk about the developing, the surprising, the less obvious?

Joel was underwhelming until late, but to deny what he's been showing lately is truly short sighted, and unfair.
Didn't do much yesterday? surely the play of the day is on his name. Beside that assist he really should have had 2 more (Flam to the bar, Feo godknowswhathewasthinkingmissingthat), and maybe even 3 (Giroud run a millisecond too early). He was there building, he was showing up for the ball, he was pressing upfield and worked tirelessly (even if not perfectly) in defense. To those who say "he didn't actually do much", what grade (number) would you give his game? IMO that is an 8 performance easy (and I won't complain when Jones says it's higher than that).

Big question, of course - can he keep it up? and is he going to continue to improve (and why would that be unlikely, as he started to with getting regular game time? it's only now that we see Costa-Rica's Joel playing for us). And then - will he stay fit (an Arsenal must question).

Super from Joel. Don't know about "this year's Coq", but if the trend continues "this year's Joel" is good enough for me - and just what we needed in this dreadful time.

Bold Tone

Relax it's only 2 guys in the whole of Goonerdom who don't think much of his contribution yesterday.

MistaT

naz wrote:
Brilliant assist straight from Ozil's playbook

I like Giroud's approach there too in that he showed Campbell (very early) where he wanted the ball. That's the kind of thing our established players should be doing to help youngsters!

Bold Tone

You could point to that spot as much as you like but the ball ain't getting there without that control, dribble and execution (pace/angle/ballspin) of the pass.

Meatwad

exactly. his pointing had nothing to do with. he just needed to continue running. if he can see you pointing he can see where you running.

jones

yuv wrote:
Big question, of course - can he keep it up?

Again, the lad is getting his first ever run out in the team and has already produced two assists Özil would have been proud of (yesterday and vs Zagreb). It's just impossible to be a poor footballer and pull that shit off. Even the ones critical of him see that his stamina and confidence are already on another level compared to his earlier showings, and he still contributed in every game even when he hasn't been great, be it with goals or by tracking back.

Only question mark remaining is him staying fit as you say that's an issue with every Arsenal player, we managed to break Alexis ffs.

yuv

There's no argument he's playing very well right now. But "can he keep it up" is in no way limited to injuries alone.
Actually Ox is a good example of someone who played very well on some stretches, and then - darkness.
Playing well and doing so consistently are two different things.

I think you should be well happy Joel is no longer someone who's in doubt - he's earned it, it's well deserved. But he still has
where to grow, surely you know that?

jones

I think you've missed my point. It's obvious of course that Campbell has to grow but you're shifting the focus here; the point were calls for him to be sold or that he generally will never be good enough, midtable etc, when most couldn't even gauge his ability because of his small number of games in an Arsenal shirt.

I'm not the only one who should be happy Joel isn't in doubt (although I highly doubt that's the case, even if you're honest enough to put up your hand), given he's putting in good performances for Arsenal I think everyone should be. I also would be more than happy to be proven wrong by any Arsenal player I've written off in the past, but then again I'm never wrong 🙂

Doc

Now that his fitness is improving and looks more comfortable in the team. Id like to see him express himself a bit more in attack. Think he has still got more in his locker. Want to see him cut it side a bit and commit players & maybe try his luck with some long range shots. Don't think he has got the balance between attack and defence quite right yet but he is getting there.

Gazza M

Doc wrote:
Now that his fitness is improving and looks more comfortable in the team. Id like to see him express himself a bit more in attack. Think he has still got more in his locker. Want to see him cut it side a bit and commit players & maybe try his luck with some long range shots. Don't think he has got the balance between attack and defence quite right yet but he is getting there.

the good thing is he's already not scared to express himself, take his man on, take shots. i can see him showing more and more of what he's got.

Clrnc

I was there at the game yesterday and Campbell was magnificent. It's no surprise he received a standing ovation from us and also the entire stadium, given that he played incredibly well in his loan spell there and they have huge affection for him.

I really like how his fitness has improved tremendously given that it was the aspect that people worried the most about. Late in the game he was still running like mad tracking back and all. I thought he was the best player on the pitch along with Ramsey. His first touches were great, off the ball running was dangerous throughout, people don't see that on tv though. Anyway, the assist is not surprising anymore given that he did the same against Zagreb, but it looked better in replays than first viewing. Weight of pass and vision perfect. He should be first choice right winger now.

yuv

Athens too, Clrnc? 😆 You do our far east tour and get your ears into wenger's table, and you manage to be in this as well? sure you managed to do it on the job, too 🙂 .

What did you make of the mid balance (noticed you had Aaron as one of our top 2 - I thought he was very good as well), and how do you feel about him doing also the more restrained part (and partnering Coq)?

And as an aside - people were down playing the opponent ("was only Olympiacos" etc.). How would you rank the difficulty yesterday, team & surroundings?

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