Bundesliga discussion thread

Gunner89

Didn't see one so thought I'd make one.

Here's an interesting article-

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9786300/F365-Focus

Of course they made the champions league qualification round after coming 4th with a team including Marco Reus, Dante, Ter-Stegen and Neustadter. 3 of the above 4 left after that season

Unfortunately they didn't have the money or reputation to land primary targets which included Olivier Giroud.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-closer-to-olivier-giroud-signing-885634

Now they have a capable squad again which includes- Max Kruse, Patrick Herrmann, Thorgan Hazard, Christoph Kramer and also includes former Arsenal man Havard Nordveit.

Unfortunately Kramer's 2 year loan runs out this summer so he goes back to Leverkusen.

Another club who invested shrewdly and signed Calhanoglu, former Arsenal targets Tin Jedvaj and Drmic as well as Papadopolous (on loan). Think they can get the latter on a permanent now Schalke have signed Nastasic on a permanent. They supplement the in-coming Kramer, Bender, Bernd Leno, Karim Bellarabi and Son Heung-min.

Plenty of decent squads in the Bundesliga but it's just that Bayerns financial might is on another level.

Bryant

http://gfycat.com/ExaltedSharpFluke#

Neuer made this look ridiculously easy.

banduan

So G89, guess that makes them now MunchenGladtobeBach?

Gunner89

Super Mario wrote:
http://gfycat.com/ExaltedSharpFluke#

Neuer made this look ridiculously easy.

A slight bit of luck involved that it stayed on his hand but many would have conceded.

Clrnc

That's a goal 9 times out of 10 with most keepers in our league

Mirth

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bayern-munich-boss-pep-guardiola-5461533

This guy is no flash in the pan.

est

The new Mourinho.

I'd like to see him prove himself somewhere where he doesn't have half of the World XI in his starting line-up.

JazzG

Thiago Alacantra talking about his comeback, his English is a lot better than I thought it would be. Guy has the potential to be one of the top CM players in the world, hopefully he can stay clear of injuries now.

Burnwinter

est wrote:
I'd like to see him prove himself somewhere where he doesn't have half of the World XI in his starting line-up.

Exactly. So far he's proven himself to have a gift for being appointed to manage unbelievably dominant teams that are at their absolute peak.

est

His English is very impressive alright.

Clrnc

Burnwinter™ wrote:
est wrote:
I'd like to see him prove himself somewhere where he doesn't have half of the World XI in his starting line-up.

Exactly. So far he's proven himself to have a gift for being appointed to manage unbelievably dominant teams that are at their absolute peak.

I used to doubt him back in A-M, thought Messi is helping him alot and he needs to do more to be a proven top manager.

However, looking at how he changed Bayern's playing style now to a totally dominant and flexible team, I am sold. He has totally rendered formations useless.

Mirth

Also Barcelona haven't been as good as they used to be. There's no doubt that Guardiola has had the luxury of working with the world's best players but despite that he's exceeded expectations, particularly at Barcelona.

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter™ wrote:
est wrote:
I'd like to see him prove himself somewhere where he doesn't have half of the World XI in his starting line-up.

Exactly. So far he's proven himself to have a gift for being appointed to manage unbelievably dominant teams that are at their absolute peak.

I've always found that theory very curious.
In 07/08 Barcelona won no trophies, they ended up third with only 67 points in the league, behind Villarreal. Their top scorer was an aging Thierry Henry.

Guardiola took over that summer and immediately won the treble. If that's managing an unbelievably dominant team, wouldn't you say that if he came to Arsenal this summer and won the treble next season too?

est

Look no further than the success/lack of thereof of the respective national teams.

Or is Guardiola somehow responsible for that too?

Mirth

No ones suggesting he had a squad of rank amateurs, he had the best players at his disposal and managed to exceed expectations all the same.

Rex

I don't think Guardiola has exceeded expectations at Bayern. He took over a team which had just won the treble, demolishing everything in their way. I don't think they play better football now either.

Mirth

Not at Bayern but he did at Barcelona.

Rex

Tru dat.

Burnwinter

Guardiola has always inherited champion squads and been able to sign up the absolute cream of global talent to complement them. I don't think there's any other manager who's had such luxury, even Mourinho doesn't come close.

I don't think it discredits his ability but it's a much bigger factor than his ability in his success. That said, I'm not sure if other managers would have achieved any more (or as much) in his place. At Barcelona he had an irreplaceable mystique due to his history at the club.

QuincyAbeyie

Again, inheriting a team that came third with 67 points and won nothing the season before is not "always inheriting champion squads".