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Which young strikers will become world class?

Gunner89

A lot of stories emanating from italy especially of the intermediary and advisor variety turn out to be false. I trust only Dimarzio for those.

Gunner89

Berardi now with 13 this season and 16 last season in Serie A.

Only 20 years old.

Klaus

There's a good writeup on Berardi here if anyone's interested:

Voted best player in Serie B at the age of 18. 30 goals and 18 assists in 59 Serie A games at the age of 20. Has also picked up a staggering 23 yellow cards and 2 red in those 59 games. 😆 He's a nutter, and it will probably turn out to be a good thing. No one's going to walk over this guy.

JazzG

How would you describe him as a player? What kind of forward is he?

Klaus

Young van Persie, basically. Bit quicker and more two-footed, but that's his general makeup. High technical level, good sense of where the goal is, hot temperament. He was banging in freekicks with both feet at the age of 18. Doesn't really play with his back towards the goal. Like Robin early on he's perhaps more of a winger than an outright striker at the moment. Creative guy. He grabs assists like this one regularly when he doesn't score himself: http://gfycat.com/FlickeringIlliterateAxisdeer

I've seen him hit a few 60 yard assists in Serie A. Major concern so far is that he doesn't spread his goals around too much, and a good few of them are from penalties. He will respond if he gets provoked, but I don't think it's a bad trait to have against Premier League defenders.

JazzG

Do you think Juve would let him go? They have Morata but at any time R.Madrid could call him back.

Klaus

I think they might, yeah. I don't see Real buying Morata back. They'll probably just come to some form of agreement where Juve pays them off in order to remove the clause from his contract.

Plus Juventus are buying Dybala this summer. Tevez, Morata, Llorente and Dybala will make a great strikeforce next season. There's no real room for Berardi there, and Juve still co-own him with Sassuolo unless I'm mistaken. They will have to solve that this summer. I think Juve will end up selling Sassuolo the full rights for a modest sum, on provision that they get most of the money when Berardi makes his next move.

JazzG

Sounds interesting, what kind of money do you think they'd want for him?

Klaus

I have no idea, but looking at the fees for young players like Dybala and Iturbe might give us some form of indication. I think Iturbe was €22 million and Dybala is rumoured to move for €28 million.

I doubt we would be interested either way, unfortunately. Wenger has been obsessing for years over strikers who can play with their backs toward the goal, and I don't think Berardi will ever play like that. If we were to build teams like we used to prior to 2008 he would be a very interesting signing though.

Bryant

JazzG wrote:
Sounds interesting, what kind of money do you think they'd want for him?

To give another perspective, Juve want a deal in which they can buy him back for a fixed fee from the latest I've heard. I'm sure they will probably sell their share of Berardi to Sassuolo that way. They've done the same thing before with Simone Zaza. As a result, a potential deal would make sense for Juve and us would probably be a higher fee and first refusal if Berardi ever wanted to leave.

As seen in the gif provided by Klaus, Berardi absolutely loves to play Milan and has destroyed them on multiple occasions.

GaelForce

Klaus wrote:
Young van Persie, basically. Bit quicker and more two-footed, but that's his general makeup. High technical level, good sense of where the goal is, hot temperament. He was banging in freekicks with both feet at the age of 18. Doesn't really play with his back towards the goal. Like Robin early on he's perhaps more of a winger than an outright striker at the moment. Creative guy. He grabs assists like this one regularly when he doesn't score himself: http://gfycat.com/FlickeringIlliterateAxisdeer

That's a Messi assist. :drool:

Gunner89

Berardi will be brought out-right by one of the two clubs as co-onwnership system finishes this summer.

Klaus

GaelForce wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Young van Persie, basically. Bit quicker and more two-footed, but that's his general makeup. High technical level, good sense of where the goal is, hot temperament. He was banging in freekicks with both feet at the age of 18. Doesn't really play with his back towards the goal. Like Robin early on he's perhaps more of a winger than an outright striker at the moment. Creative guy. He grabs assists like this one regularly when he doesn't score himself: http://gfycat.com/FlickeringIlliterateAxisdeer

That's a Messi assist. :drool:

Look at the ones between 2:32 and 3:00 in this clip:

The lad can play.

Super Mario wrote:
To give another perspective, Juve want a deal in which they can buy him back for a fixed fee from the latest I've heard.

I hadn't heard that, but it makes sense. Allegri doesn't seem to rate him much though, hence Dybala.

lorddulaarsenal

Adama traore albeit in a wide forward role

Gunner89

So more than 12 months on-

Lukaku's had his best ever scoring season netting 25 goals
Morata has been on the bench more often than not scoring 8 times thanks to the form of another one on the list now at Juventus that is Dybala
Vietto's barely played netting just 3 goals
Ings was showing flashes of talent as he was ruled out for the entire season early on
Berahino's bagged 7 having been under transfer speculation and out of the team for the majority of the season
Harry Kane's been the best of the bunch having scored 27 goals in all competitions
Having just turned 23 Icardi recently scored his 50th goal for Inter at a rate of exactly 1 in 2.
Lacazette has 18 in all competitions in a Lyon side without the services of Nebil Fekir.

Some other strikers with potential this season-

Vietto has been replaced by Bakambu who's bagged 20 for Villarreal
Mitrovic has 8 league goals for a horrible Newcastle side. Another with the same league haul is Anthony Martial.
Michy Batshuayi and Ousamane Dembele are the joint 3rd and 4th top scorers in Ligue 1.
Antoine Greizmann playing further forward has scored 29 times this season.

Savz

Breel Embolo possibly?

I don't think there are many who are born great strikers. ie Ronaldo9, Owen, Inzaghi - most of the greatest that we see today - Benzema, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Suarez, RVP - or looking in the past the likes of Henry, Eto'o, Batistuta, Torres, all became great strikers over a certain amount of years.

I think that unless you have unreal pace or out of this world talent rarely seen, most of the art of striking is something you learn during your years as a professional.

Strikers are judged more on their stats than midfielders, and generally they don't master their trade and max out their stats until they've reached their mid twenties.

Changes in formations and systems of play have surely contributed to this apparent lack of striking quality.

Embolo, Barbosa and Selke.

Martial too.

Kane is one of the best all round young strikers in the world.

Jed

Rashford innit

Qwiss

Nah

Jed

He'll be world class by the next World Cup.

dreamlord

He'll be world class by the time he's 20?

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