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Oh boohooo Poor Liverpool

Clrnc

In 2004, Ferguson had called me 'the most influential player in England, bar none' and suggested that 'anyone would love to have Gerrard in their team'. So I was a little hurt and surprised when 13 years later, Ferguson used his autobiography to insist he was one of the few he never thought I was 'a top, top player'. I wouldn't lose any sleep but I was slightly taken aback after all his praise. The only point that mattered was that I have real respect for Ferguson, but I wondered how many league titles he thought Scholes or Keane might have won if they had played for a side like Liverpool. I would have done OK in a United team playing alongside Keane in midfield with David Beckham on the right, Ryan Giggs on the left and Ruud van Nistelrooy up front. I would have managed pretty well in that side.

This part will be very cringeworthy for the Liverpool fans. Him bigging up their most hated rival and essentially admitting Liverpool is utter shit.

More interesting parts

When I saw Rafa taking Fernando off I felt my heart sink, this was my year. I had come so close the previous season and here I was at what was supposed to be my crowning season, the one where all my dreams came to be staring at the gaffer and shaking my head, I felt a pain like no other person could possibly feel. I thought so till that fateful day in Anfield against Chelsea. As Macheda curled that ball into the corner of the net I cried, I cried for myself because I knew that it was over, all that I had worked so hard for all season was over. I never forgave Villa for handing United the trophy that season, they will always be dirt to me, utter filth. I cried all night long. As I think about this, I feel like crying again."

Best Midfielder I played against? Keane No 1. The rest? They’re all different. Frank’s the best goalscoring midfielder, Scholes the best footballer, Vieira the most difficult opponent... I loved playing against all of them. They showed me how a true great midfielder should play.

On Rafa: I used to think he favoured our Spanish-speakers. He was an especially big fan of South American players, which is fine. It caused no problem between us.

At press conferences he might call other players by their first name but I was always 'Gerrard'. It was the same in the dressing room. He would read out the team and use nicknames. But, for me, it would just be 'Gerrard'. I thought long and hard, why? Why me?

During those distressing days when I felt so torn about whether or not I should stay or go I never once thought to myself, 'I want to play for Chelsea instead of Liverpool'. My head was almost turned because I was thinking, 'I'd love to play for Jose Mourinho'. I was certain that, under Jose, I would win all the trophies I craved.

Between July 2005 and May 2015 Chelsea won the Champions League, two Premier League titles, four FA Cups, the Europa League and two League Cups. That's 10 big trophies.

In that same period at Liverpool, I have won an FA Cup and a League Cup. A league cup. Chelsea 10, Liverpool 2. I knew I made the wrong choice.

The following morning, just before the squad left for training, Pearce pulled me into a toilet at The Grove. He said, ‘I just wanted to tell you face to face that I’m going to be picking Scott Parker to be the captain for this game.’ Scott Parker is a good player and honest; I’ve got a lot of respect for Scott as a player and a person. But to pick Scott Parker as England captain ahead of me? Absolutely laughable.

I don’t know whether it was a dig at Liverpool or something more personal — but my overall perception was that Pearce was doing some muscle-flexing in the toilet mirrors.

My guess is it was a decision designed to focus attention on him, his way of saying: ‘This is me. I’m in charge.’

I might have had misgivings about his tactical insights as a coach, but I respected Pearce until that moment. I felt he treated me very badly. It was insulting — and wrong. I thought it was selfish. It was a political decision to make everyone think he had balls.

It was clear in team meetings Pearce wanted to impress and get a crack at the job for Euro 2012.

But I think the decision he shared with me in a toilet was one of the reasons he never got the position he craved.

"Of the bad ones, I don’t really want to waste time thinking about El Hadji Diouf but it’s worth highlighting his wasted seasons at Liverpool as an example of how it can all go wrong. Gerard Houllier, a very good manager and a usually wise judge of character, signed Diouf in the summer of 2002. Gerard bought Diouf for £10m from Lens - solely on the recommendation of his former assistant, Patrice Bergues, who had coached Diouf there.

I understood why Gerard rushed through the signing, but he did not really know Diouf as a person. He was one of three new signings which were meant to turn Liverpool into Premier League champions. We had finished as runners-up to Manchester United the season before and a combination of Diouf, Salif Diao and Bruno Cheyrou was supposed to drive us to the title. It was probably the biggest waste of £18m in Liverpool’s history ever. We finished 5th that season."

I might actually buy the book. Hilarious insights.

Mirth

On Rafa: I used to think he favoured our Spanish-speakers. He was an especially big fan of South American players, which is fine. It caused no problem between us.

At press conferences he might call other players by their first name but I was always 'Gerrard'. It was the same in the dressing room. He would read out the team and use nicknames. But, for me, it would just be 'Gerrard'. I thought long and hard, why? Why me?

😆

goon

To be fair, it's probably drive me mad too 😆

Surprised to hear him say he made the wrong choice not to join Chelsea.

Tam

I'm surprised how much he's shitting all over Liverpool in that. Amazing. Wonder what their fans make of it.

Rorz

When I saw Rafa taking Fernando off I felt my heart sink, this was my year. I had come so close the previous season and here I was at what was supposed to be my crowning season, the one where all my dreams came to be staring at the gaffer and shaking my head, I felt a pain like no other person could possibly feel. I thought so till that fateful day in Anfield against Chelsea. As Macheda curled that ball into the corner of the net I cried, I cried for myself because I knew that it was over, all that I had worked so hard for all season was over. I never forgave Villa for handing United the trophy that season, they will always be dirt to me, utter filth. I cried all night long. As I think about this, I feel like crying again."

This is absolute comedy gold. Utter filth? Handing United the trophy? Wasn't that game 2-2 until Macheda scored late on? 😆

During those distressing days when I felt so torn about whether or not I should stay or go I never once thought to myself, 'I want to play for Chelsea instead of Liverpool'. My head was almost turned because I was thinking, 'I'd love to play for Jose Mourinho'. I was certain that, under Jose, I would win all the trophies I craved.

Between July 2005 and May 2015 Chelsea won the Champions League, two Premier League titles, four FA Cups, the Europa League and two League Cups. That's 10 big trophies.

In that same period at Liverpool, I have won an FA Cup and a League Cup. A league cup. Chelsea 10, Liverpool 2. I knew I made the wrong choice.

Can't imagine that's going to go down well with the Liverpool supporters.

Gerrard is the gift that keeps on giving. I hope he comes back to manage Liverpool one day and this hilarity continues.

Clrnc

Rorz wrote:
Gerrard is the gift that keeps on giving. I hope he comes back to manage Liverpool one day and this hilarity continues.

He clearly wants it and sounds very bitter Liverpool did not offer him a coaching role.

I hope he is not sensationalizing those stuffs and everything is true, because it will be huge for the Liverpool fans that a legend said that about their beloved club.

Rex

Don't forget that the Liverpool fans also love Rafa. 🙂

Rorz

I'd say a large proportion of it is somewhat sensationalized, but that's just the nature of autobiographies and the people who help celebrities like Gerrard write them. Gerrard will obviously have had to have signed off on all this though of course so I'd say it's all believable, which is hilarious. 😆

On his slip:

Instead of hitting a long crossfield pass to set up a goal, making a decisive tackle or curling the ball into the back of the Chelsea goal to seal our victory, I had fallen over.

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jones

Rorz wrote:

Instead of hitting a long crossfield pass to set up a goal, making a decisive tackle or curling the ball into the back of the Chelsea goal to seal our victory, I had fallen over.

😆

That's the best so far 😆 😆 😆

Gurgen

Jesus, what a mountain of cringe 😆

I feel for the trees that had to die for that garbage to be printed.

Daz

Indeed. I particularly like the part where he said that he "felt a pain like no other person could possibly feel". Give me a fucking break.

USArsenal

yes, people dont feel pain that is real and not a game related hurt... what a fuckin tool

wahh.. i slipped.. get the fuck over it.. people have real problems.. go cry into your millions

redwhiteAustrian

I guess the 150-200k he got per week eased some of his pain.....fucking hell.

banduan

So now we know who mods RAWK

Bold Tone

“There are those who don’t even reach the A1 level [of English]. One of the most obvious cases of this is Iago Aspas, and the word ‘yes’… the only term he learned to pronounce fluently during his short stay with Liverpool.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/liverpool-flop-iago-aspas-only-6446219

Qwiss

Just the one fluent word more than Jamie Carragher then.

Mirth

I would have though 'sorry' would be the one word he used the most

Qwiss

Sorry seems to be the hardest the word.

Gurgen

😆

jones

They just drew at Bordeaux, while Napoli trashed Bruges earlier. At this rate it won't be long until the EPL loses its fourth CL spot.

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