Mental how far the two Milan clubs have fallen. Neither in the top 7, both have been way off challenging for the title for years.

Serie A has been hopeless in recent years. The standard of football have dropped massively.

Even Roma, a team I really like can't get anywhere close to Juve despite having some decent players.

It's sad when i remember their hey day when they were the aristocrats of Europe and you could almost guarantee an Italian side winning every club competition.
Don't know how they lost it as the rich clubs could have taken advantage of the decade when berlusconi was in charge as that was a period when they had no real government meaning no tight regulation. There was the blueprint of either the premiership or la liga to copy but they spent the whole time with their heads stuck up their own arses so much so that Juve, a team that had been relegated through the "calciopoli" scandal, organised itself and took over to such an extent that they have not had a real competitor at home for going on 5 (?) years now. None of the other teams are relevant anymore and Juve own almost all the best Italian players and use the lax loan system to full advantage in order to keep them strong. The league is now so weak, you got guys who are almost 40 years old still competing at the highest level and, still, being the best performers.

It's really odd.

You just have to look at the Parma team of 1996 and then look at what state they are in now. Really feel sorry for them.

9 days later

Salah just scored an absolutely wonderful goal against Juve. Dribbled from one end to the other end tearing their defence apart.

It's amazing how much an upgrade he is for Fiorentina compared to the ineffective Cuadrado.

Still enjoy this league contrary to the posts on the last page. What Juve is doing now isn't much different to what United did at times in the PL, Barca under Pep or possibly what the current Chelsea team will do over the next few years.

The standard of Serie A is much better than it gets credit for. Its much closer to the PL than the PL is to Spain for example. Take Chelsea out of the equation and look at what English sides have done in Europe over the last few years. If Juve and Roma played in England i'd bet good money that both of them would be currently in the top 4. Its much stronger than the Bundesliga imo.

Of course part of the problem is that Serie A has a reputation of being boring and weak and so people don't watch it much and just go along with the myth of it being a poor league.

6 days later

Luca Toni 2 off the highest scorer in Serie A. He turn 38 in May and has 33 in 60 league games for Hellas Verona.

He is a special guy.

It's ridiculous that Juventus have something like 60 players, some co owned, out on loan.

6 days later

this might be the worst hat ive ever seen

21 days later

Juventus lost to Parma, who is bankrupt and can't even afford a team bus to the stadium.

Very suspicious.

Speaking of insane stats, I believe Samir Handanovic has saved 7 of the last 8 penalties he has faced!

@[deleted] Parma doesn't have a bus as well? I thought it was only Milan that sold their bus 😆

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Speaking of insane stats, I believe Samir Handanovic has saved 7 of the last 8 penalties he has faced!

@[deleted] Parma doesn't have a bus as well? I thought it was only Milan that sold their bus 😆

Not only that, they don't have hot water in their ground 😆 Basically they are dead bankrupt.

What happened to Serie A? They never got past the idea of teams being a rich man's plaything. All the great 90s clubs were billionaires' toys. Once billionaire's became broke or disinterested, there was nothing to fall back on. Beyond Italia 90, there was no investment in fan friendly stadia in neighborhoods or aggressive commercial endeavor. They need to rethink things. Get investors in. Build new stadia in Rome and Milan, impose strict financial rules on clubs including guidance on investment in academies, and then be more aggressive commercially. This is at least a 5 year journey

6 days later

Juventus potentially 15 points clear if they win today. Ridiculous.

The whole match they just sat back and hit Lazio on the break. The Bonucci goal was criminal defending from Lazio, just let him run and shoot without any pressure.

That's how you beat Lazio atm. Juve knew they couldn't outplay them in their current monster form and Lazio were getting cocky because they're not used to being good.