World cup 2014 group draw

Biggus

http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9055721/Unseeded-England-in-Pot-4
I think the seeding has been made to balance the groups as much as possible.

Clrnc

Imagine England is the team drawn into POT2. Potentially

Brazil
England
Mexico
Italy

Or it can easily be...

Switzerland
Algeria
Honduras
Bosnia

Worst world cup group of all time.

invisibleman18

How do Switzerland always seem to qualify and end up seeded for both the World Cup and Euros? When the tournament comes they are usually about the worst side and never get past the first round, even when they had the thing at home.

Clrnc

They are one of the only sides to ever beat Spain in a competition since 2008 but I get your point. Think they are going to do much better this time. They went past the first round in 2006 isn't it.

Irishgunner

invisibleman18 wrote:
How do Switzerland always seem to qualify and end up seeded for both the World Cup and Euros? When the tournament comes they are usually about the worst side and never get past the first round, even when they had the thing at home.

Because they are clever with their friendlies, they gamed the system.

Seeding is decided by average points per game, playing against shit sides (even if you win) drops your ranking which explains England's poor seeding. Switzerland played the lowest amount of friendlies this calendar year and only played against good sides.

Basically, playing against anyone outside of the top 20 is detrimental to your ranking.

Clrnc

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/worldcupcentral/id/1542?cc=4716

Very clear explanation on how the draw is made. Basically the european team who gets drawn into pot 2 is certain to face a grp of death.

Bold Tone

Everyone knows which team are crap and which teams we want to avoid.
Senderos, Djourou et al are, and always have been, crap.

Biggus

invisibleman18 wrote:
How do Switzerland always seem to qualify and end up seeded for both the World Cup and Euros? When the tournament comes they are usually about the worst side and never get past the first round, even when they had the thing at home.

Hmm.....Blatter?
But seriously folks, it is rigged but I don't see anything nefarious about it, it's rigged so that you don't get 3 European or 2 Sth American/African teams in the same group which no one wants.
As for the moaning about groups of death and "easy" groups well, thus it ever was- That's the luck of the draw as they say.

Although international football is annoying when it gets in the way of the real thing I must admit I do find the WC draw and the drama surrounding the groups facinatiing.

Burnwinter

I'm not going to give a moment's thought to the WC until I know we've won the league.

Biggus

Here it is.

Volante

Who is the chick in the gold dress?

Volante

Spain vs Brazil final a possibility.

lorddulaarsenal

Volante wrote:
Who is the chick in the gold dress?

Stop wanking to the world cup draw volly

Biggus

Brazil/Cameroon Argentina/Nigeria...again
Fuck.

Volante

Will Australia be worse than they were in 2010?

Biggus

Spain/Chile/Australia.

Wow group E will be a piece of piss for someone.

Volante

Please put Germany, England, and USA in the same group.

Volante

Van Pussy going out in the group stage, excellent.

Tony Montana

Holland haha!

arsedocmd

Outside of Brazil, group a is the group of death probably, otherwise group c is a mini group of mini death. Australia gonna get spanked I suspect