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Official Injury Thread 2013/14

Nela

I thought he was supposed to be able to play with a mask?

DiabyKungFu

Nela wrote:
gunnerblog ‏@gunnerblog 2 min

AW: "Ramsey is out for longer than we expected. He had a little setback in training. The same muscle."

To me this is an issue with the medical team. It's not bad luck when it keeps on happening. In this case, it's not about overplaying Ramsey but Wenger bears some responsability for not doing more to change our medical set up.

I believe we recently hired a new head of sports science.

y va marquer

Diaby KungFu wrote:
AW: "Ramsey is out for longer than we expected. He had a little setback in training. The same muscle."

Did Wenger put a time on it or is everyone going on the word of Collymore?

Gurgen

When it rains it pours.

y va marquer

qs! wrote:
Nela wrote:
To me this is an issue with the medical team. It's not bad luck when it keeps on happening. In this case, it's not about overplaying Ramsey but Wenger bears some responsability for not doing more to change our medical set up.

Agree there. Clearly he's been brought back to train too hard, too soon. Happens so often with us.

It's not clear at all.
It's pure speculation.

Volante

Nela wrote:
To me this is an issue with the medical team. It's not bad luck when it keeps on happening. In this case, it's not about overplaying Ramsey but Wenger bears some responsability for not doing more to change our medical set up.

According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

Alfonso

y va marquer wrote:
Waste of time telling some of our resident hysterics to calm down.
A draw and injuries confirmed and they're giving up.

If they want to give up then it's up to them.

Feeling sorry for ourselves and throwing the white towel in is no good for anyone.

I certainly won't let a couple of injuries and our first 'dropped points' in 6 weeks disguise a great 6 months and a legit title challenge. So, so much football to be played this season. We got a fantastic chance and this hasn't changed over night.

goon

qs! wrote:
Rosicky is out too isn't he?

He can play with a mask if need be.

DiabyKungFu

y va marquer wrote:
Diaby KungFu wrote:
AW: "Ramsey is out for longer than we expected. He had a little setback in training. The same muscle."

Did Wenger put a time on it or is everyone going on the word of Collymore?

Collymore, Veysey and Gunnnerblog all reported the same news seemingly independent of one another.

Timbob

Volante wrote:
Nela wrote:
To me this is an issue with the medical team. It's not bad luck when it keeps on happening. In this case, it's not about overplaying Ramsey but Wenger bears some responsability for not doing more to change our medical set up.

According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

According to who?

y va marquer

Volante wrote:
Nela wrote:
To me this is an issue with the medical team. It's not bad luck when it keeps on happening. In this case, it's not about overplaying Ramsey but Wenger bears some responsability for not doing more to change our medical set up.

According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

"Quite a few"
They know do they?
I'm not ruling out the possibility that there are issues with our training and fitness regimes but this speculation without a shred of actual detail to illustrate what exactly it is that we do incorrectly is useless, real information would be more enlightening.

Volante

Timothy wrote:
Volante wrote:
According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

According to who?

Raymond Verheijen, Stewart Robson, Wayne Veysey, etc, etc.

y va marquer

Timothy wrote:
Volante wrote:
According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

According to who?

"Quite a few"
Do keep up Timothy.

Nela

😆

y va marquer

Stewart Robson, say no more.

Rohit

Timothy wrote:
Volante wrote:
According to quite a few Wenger's training methods (Tony Colbert is our fitness coach) are outdated by about five to ten years. David Moyes is the same way, his teams always have tons of injuries too.

According to who?

Americans 😉

I don't understand how anyone can make these claims.

JazzG

Diaby KungFu wrote:
AW: "Ramsey is out for longer than we expected. He had a little setback in training. The same muscle."

From that it doesn't sound like a big injury, hope so anyway!!!

Timbob

Volante wrote:
Timothy wrote:
According to who?

Raymond Verheijen, Stewart Robson, Wayne Veysey, etc, etc.

Verheijen says everybody's training is outdated and Stewart Robson and Veysey are known bullshitters with agendas (especially Robson). Etc, etc...

Rohit

Well he has been out more than 4 weeks and if it's a recurrence of the same, 4 to 6 weeks is about right.

y va marquer

Just saw Wenger interviewed on Sky, and all he committed to regarding Ramsey was that he would definitely be out for Sunday.

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