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Maxime Gonalons

Qwiss

otfgoon wrote:
Denison's passing was simple but it is also slow.

Not really. He rarely took 3 touches. The problems with Denilson were his passing was too simple, when he did take 3 or more touches he got in trouble and defensively he was shit.

goon

It could be one touch but it was still slow. His passes were so telegraphed. He'd look at who he's passing to then spend an eternity looking at the ball before executing his pass. Was infuriating.

Clrnc

Arteta was what people hope Denilson will become.

The problem with Denilson is a lack of heart. He has never put in 100% for us.

lorddulaarsenal

Denilson truly was shit.

He'd skew his passes just enough to kill any moment in a move.

Horrific player

spacemanspiff

sabre loved him

Ray

Denilson short passing was pretty good, as was his long shots. But he wasn't physically strong enough, and he wasn't intelligent enough either. You have to have at least one to compensate for the other.

Timbob

Used to put people in trouble all the time with his passing. He would complete the pass then the bloke receiving it would have to perform miracles to find the next pass.

They said, he could be a pretty decent midfield pivot, but not in the premier league.

lorddulaarsenal

Nailed it Tim.

But hey atleast he got those passing stats

Nela

This looks good on paper. We desperately need a tall DM.

But I just can't get excited about it. A French, ligue 1 player just feels so underwhelming after players like Gervinho and Chamakh.

Irishgunner

Personally that's not the type of defensive midfielder that I want, I'd prefer a destroyer as opposed to an anchor man.

@[deleted]: Agree, another Ligue 1 signing would be so underwhelming...

JazzG

Irish gunner wrote:
Personally that's not the type of defensive midfielder that I want, I'd prefer a destroyer as opposed to an anchor man.

Few of the so called top clubs have a midfield destroyer in the team. I think the game has evolved since those days. The player who sits in front of the defence is usually the point where attacks start and I think they need to have efficient positioning and be able to break up play but most importantly be able to start off attacks quickly and have a good range of passing.

I always had high hopes for Song but his positioning and lack of awareness there used to let him down but he ticked all the other boxes. Arteta has done well in that role but I think we need someone who is quicker on the ball, I think he has struggled against the top clubs and I do feel at times he slows the pace of our game down. In the Champions League in particular at times he has looked a bit out of his depth. Look at Carrick for Man Utd this season who has run games from midfield with his excellent range of passing and how quickly and efficiently he starts off their attacking play.

Irishgunner

I'd like a deeplying playmaker (Arteta) and destroyer (Wanyama/bender) combo.

Something similar to Pirlo + Vidal

Arteta dictates from deep, stays disciplined and covers the defense. The destroyer can hassle the opposition and help win the ball high up the pitch, ideally he would be physically good enough to get around the pitch quickly and make a difference at both ends.

EDIT: to clarify, I don't envision the destroyer as being the deepest midfielder covering the defense, he would be positioned higher up the pitch so the he can proactively stop attacks.

flobaba

Irish gunner wrote:
I'd like a deeplying playmaker (Arteta) and destroyer (Wanyama/bender) combo.

It's not Christmas, IG.

Rex

I'd like what Bayern has, a €40m defensive player who is good on the ball and a pigmounter. Too much?

Claudius

we'd all like a pig mounter, my dear fellow. they're not a dime a dozen though

Clrnc

Looks like a younger version of Arteta

Cannon

I agree with how similar to Arteta his game looks. I mean the way Arteta plays for us. He can also play CB.

Irishgunner

Rex wrote:
I'd like what Bayern has, a €40m defensive player who is good on the ball and a pigmounter. Too much?

Claudius wrote:
we'd all like a pig mounter, my dear fellow. they're not a dime a dozen though

Pigmounter? Never heard the expression.

lorddulaarsenal

Pepe is a pig mounter

Irishgunner

A bruiser?

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