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The Film Thread

Burnwinter

Segway wrote:
Hyperbole much? Do you like any even mildly popular films?

On second inspection that might have seen a rather passive aggresive question. Not my intention 🙂

🙂 That's cool. Yes, I love a lot of trashy, popular films. 1917 is honestly quite bad, though. I'd challenge anyone to read THE MIDDLE PARTS OF FORTUNE, which has more or less similar subject matter, and really love what this film does with WWI.

QuincyAbeyie

That sure sounds like a lot of work to try and dislike a movie I really enjoyed.

Anyway, the story is nothing special. Loved the cinematography, the set pieces and the score so I don't think reading a book would change much.

Burnwinter

We can do this all day, I guess.

In the end you have your opinion, and I have mine. Mine is derived from a conscious engagement with the material in its historical and artistic context, yours is derived from injecting the images directly into your penis after a hard few hours of smoking crack. Who's to say whose opinion is more valid? Live and let live, I say.

QuincyAbeyie

😆 Wish I could be that smug on purpose, nevermind naturally.

Burnwinter

You're managing it, don't worry.

KingslandBarge

what’re the best WWI movies out there ?

Coombs

Paths of Glory, Lawrence of Arabia, Wings, The Wind that Shakes the Barley, Black and White in Color, Gallipoli, etc.

Coombs

The Grand Illusion of course.

Klaus

Black Book and A Bridge Too Far are good too. Come And See. Thin Red Line. There's a Danish film with Mads Mikkelsen called Flame and Citron that is pretty underrated. Letters From Iwo Jima with Ken Watanabe.

Coombs

Come and See, for sure. Haven't see Black Book or Flame and Citron.

Jens

Der Untergang.

Klaus

It's been lampooned to death on youtube, but Downfall is a rather good film too. Feel a bit sorry for Bruno Ganz who was a serious actor but got ridiculed in all those Hitler compilations which ended up overshadowing his reputation and work right up until he died last year.

Klaus

Great minds, Jens.

QuincyAbeyie

KingslandBarge wrote:
what’re the best WWI movies out there ?

Klaus wrote:
Black Book and A Bridge Too Far are good too. Come And See. Thin Red Line. There's a Danish film with Mads Mikkelsen called Flame and Citron that is pretty underrated. Letters From Iwo Jima with Ken Watanabe.

Not saying that these aren't good, just felt like someone should tell KingslandBarge that these are not WWI movies.

Klaus

Yeah, I read that as WWII movies. Sorry.

Klaus

Coombs wrote:
Wings

Impossible to think about that film without remembering that shot:

Qwiss

I loved when they paid homage to that short in the Last Jedi, totally unexpected.

Burnwinter

THE WIND THAT SHAKES THE BARLEY is a terrific example of a WWI film and it's in stark contrast to 1917. It's WWI-adjacent rather than "set in the trenches", educates its audience about the motives and stakes of history unfolding in Ireland in that era, and builds up an incredible pathos for its characters. Cried the first time I saw it because it's so undeniably tragic.

I wish Ken Loach made many more films that were that good, or that other filmmakers were making its equivalent for other countries touched by that war.

Coombs

Yea plenty of domestic dramas in the US set against, usually, WWII, but in general I think Abel Gance and and Pabst's efforts are worth watching. Obviously much of Soviet film from the era is WWI adjacent at least. Pudovkin certainly deserves a mention in the conversation.

Burnwinter

I haven't seen any of Gance's films but he gets heavy mentions in CINEMA I, which I'm reading at the moment, and which is quite mind-expanding.

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