goon wrote:
It's funny, everyone I know in real life thought Joker was a decent film at the very least, most really enjoyed it. It's the same with Fight Club. It's only when you go online that you find some really strong views against them.
For the large majority of the casual, mainstream cinema consuming audience, they're good films.
JOKER must seem pretty intense if the last film you saw was AQUAMAN. That's not snobbery really, it makes perfect sense that critics watching 400 films a year hold different views from the "mainstream cinema consuming audience".
[spoiler]One thing that bugged me about JOKER is that it flubbed its analysis of class and inequality badly. It's actually not a film about a victim of society, it's a film about a victim of childhood trauma. Fleck's experience can't be generalised to a broader political critique. The decision to set it in New York (cough) in the 1980s also turns it into a period piece, the conditions it depicts are distant from those of the average viewer in time and place. It does lack the courage of some of the films it's lifting bits from.[/spoiler]