Kel Varnsen wrote:

Fantastic.Mr.Fox wrote:

Why the fuck didn't we sign Sahin if we weren't going to sign anyone.

he cost too much. that's how we operate these days. if wenger doesn't feel the player is worth the money, he backs out. for a guy with a degree in economics, he sure as heel seem oblivious to how the market works. players are worth what clubs are willing to pay, not what he thinks they're worth. not to mention, £10 mill for gervinho? wtf happened...

I think with gervinho arsene put a lot of stock into his stats at Lille

Vantastic wrote:

asajoseph wrote:

No, we don't. Lucas and Sahin have missed the best part of a year's football - I'd take Cazorla, Wilshere & Arteta over any combination you can make of the Liverpool midfield.

Er Diaby? Pretty sure he's a guaranteed starter now that Song's gone.

Plus, in Suarez, they've got a potentially top tier striker on their books, can't say the same for any of our forwards.

I guess we'll have to see how the season pans out, but I do believe Wenger is the major difference between them and us. If Rogers proves to be a competent manager then I'm of the opinion they'll challenge for a CL spot(doesn't mean they'll finish in the top 4 though).

If you're going to factor in Sahin and Lucas, migh as well consider Wilshere (in for Diaby) too.

As for Suarez, he's a dangerour, and stylish player, but also not that efficient in the final third. He's a very good player, and the sort of person who might click one year and destroy the league for 6 months, but until this point his goalscoring record has been quite ordinary in England (and typically overhyped, as a Liverpool player).

Liverpool have a decent defence, usually, but their midfield has been a bit of a mess for years considering the money spent on it. Up front, they're not all that special, and if Podolski and Giroud can't each match Suarez for goals I'll be quite disappointed.

comparing player for player is a bit pointless, it all depends on how the teams gel together. so far i think we've looked terrible going forward. we need to improve a lot if we are to finish in the top four.

Ben Fairthorne ‏@BFairthorne
Believed M'Vila info and came from reputable agent. Like most agents he had own agenda. Get over it. #TransferDeadineDay

Sorry to bleat on, but I just cannot get over this Wasn't once or twice, this guy was saying it was nailed on virtually every other day for four months! Oh well, least it seems Moutinho deal could fall through.

I'd say currently our defence is stronger than Pool as a whole, midfield on par, attacking wise yet to be seen cause we haven't gel.

Kel Varnsen wrote:

Fantastic.Mr.Fox wrote:

Why the fuck didn't we sign Sahin if we weren't going to sign anyone.

he cost too much. that's how we operate these days. if wenger doesn't feel the player is worth the money, he backs out.

Even worse is the apparent lack of a proper back up plan whenever we miss out on the originally targeted player.

Shady Shakes wrote:

Ben Fairthorne ‏@BFairthorne
Believed M'Vila info and came from reputable agent. Like most agents he had own agenda. Get over it. #TransferDeadineDay

Sorry to bleat on, but I just cannot get over this Wasn't once or twice, this guy was saying it was nailed on virtually every other day for four months! Oh well, least it seems Moutinho deal could fall through.

You should blame yourself for taking him (some random twittering dude) as an authority on all things Arsenal.

Get over it.

Reminds me of the 2 summers before the last one where we did absolutely fuck all on deadline day.

Olly Girude wrote:

I think with gervinho arsene put a lot of stock into his stats at Lille

No, twas Captain who did that!

So Citeh already signed 5 today, Javi Garcia, Matija Nastasic, Maicon, Scott Sinclair and Richard Wright. How many did Mancini earlier on promise to unveil today?

Olly Girude wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

he cost too much. that's how we operate these days. if wenger doesn't feel the player is worth the money, he backs out. for a guy with a degree in economics, he sure as heel seem oblivious to how the market works. players are worth what clubs are willing to pay, not what he thinks they're worth. not to mention, £10 mill for gervinho? wtf happened...

I think with gervinho arsene put a lot of stock into his stats at Lille

what i don't understand is how the glaring weaknesses in his game were ignored. walcott handles our passing game better than this clown.

Clrnc wrote:

Reminds me of the 2 summers before the last one where we did absolutely fuck all on deadline day.

You mean the summer we were linked to Alonso, desperately needed a DM and woke up the morning after the transfer deadline only to go on Arsenal.com and read the announcement that Randall had signed a new deal?

Looking at our squad, I have to say that unless it is a top class player - then I'd rather we signed no one. We certainly don't need any more decent to goodish players. We have plenty of those already IMO.

The only player we have been linked to in the last 48 hours or so I feel worth persuing is Essien. With him we at least know that at his best he is a top, top class player. He is also versatile and has played competitive games for Chelsea pretty much all over the pitch bar striker and goalkeeper. His knees may be finished, but then again they may not. At 29 he is the kind of player we should be willing to take a punt on.

Loan for the season with an option to buy, and Chelsea to pay part of his no doubt high wages - do it!

Olly Girude wrote:

I think with gervinho arsene put a lot of stock into his stats at Lille

I think so too. Year by year they showed a clear improvement. His stats aren't that bad in Premier League either to be fair. His output is comparable to players like Young and Valencia. The problem was perhaps that he was just another cog when we needed a more dominant player who could raise the level of the team.

If someone told me that this guy would be fit for the rest of the season starting tomorrow I'd be fine with not signing anyone too:

We know for a fact that he won't though.

It's kind of funny in a sort of grim way.
Maybe it's the sheer predictability of it all.
'Spect Geoff Shreeves will be despatched to the Emirates under a dark cloud to tell us we've sold Van Persie and Song and signed Essien on loan.

State of those fans outside Spurs Lodge. Man I will laugh if Moutinho and Lloris fall through.

Clrnc wrote:

So Citeh already signed 5 today, Javi Garcia, Matija Nastasic, Maicon, Scott Sinclair and Richard Wright. How many did Mancini earlier on promise to unveil today?

None of those players will make City a better team though.

Maicon will. The others will provide them with squad depth.

I would have taken Scott Sinclair, if we had sold Theo to be honest.

As for Essien, I don't think it'd be a bad loan signing at all, to be honest. You might say that his legs have gone, but you can't underestimate the intangible benefit of having an experienced winner in the dressing room. I'd trust him to do a solid job as back up at RB/CB/DM and CM. Obviously hoping we sign a midfielder though.