Even torres knew he was offside when he scored that goal.

Well, we never won the PL title with less than 7 points off our first 3 games. Chelsea have 6 from 6 so far...

Captain wrote:

Give it until the end of september to make a judgement on any team.

September? I gave up on my own team after 1 game in August. Anyway nobody (idiots dont count!) listens to anyone else, less so a stranger on an internet forum in order to make personal judgements.
Imagine my judgements to teams full of c***s like Chelski.
Please don't say knee-jerk coz i know it is but it is my way of cushioning the blow of potential disappointment!

what?

Quick translation (with apologies to Bold Tone)

Bold Tone wrote:

Captain wrote:

Give it until the end of september to make a judgement on any team.

September? I gave up on my own team after 1 game in August.

I acknowledge that I haven't met your standards for basic human reason.

Bold Tone wrote:

Anyway nobody (idiots dont count!) listens to anyone else, less so a stranger on an internet forum in order to make personal judgements.

I insist on writing under the assumption that no one other than an idiot will read what I write, and the fact that you have read my writing changes this not one whit. You may conclude that I judge you to be an idiot.

Bold Tone wrote:

Imagine my judgements to teams full of c***s like Chelski.

I may say outrageous and unstable things, but the things I haven't said would have been so outrageous and unstable that you should be grateful!

Bold Tone wrote:

Please don't say knee-jerk coz i know it is

I'll admit it, I'm a goose on a wind-up ...

Bold Tone wrote:

but it is my way of cushioning the blow of potential disappointment!

... but at least I'm only doing it as a way of coping with deeper-seated problems.

Burnwinter wrote:

Quick translation (with apologies to Bold Tone)

Bold Tone wrote:

September? I gave up on my own team after 1 game in August.

I acknowledge that I haven't met your standards for basic human reason.

Bold Tone wrote:

Anyway nobody (idiots dont count!) listens to anyone else, less so a stranger on an internet forum in order to make personal judgements.

I insist on writing under the assumption that no one will read what I write, and the fact that you have read my writing changes this not one whit.

Bold Tone wrote:

Imagine my judgements to teams full of c***s like Chelski.

I may say outrageous and unstable things, but the things I haven't said would have been so outrageous and unstable that you should be grateful!

Bold Tone wrote:

Please don't say knee-jerk coz i know it is

I'll admit it, I'm a goose on a wind-up ...

Bold Tone wrote:

but it is my way of cushioning the blow of potential disappointment!

... but at least I'm only doing it as a way of coping with deeper-seated problems.

Dont worry, no offence taken as it is an accurate translation from bollox to English

Sorry, truly I am. Long day at work, thought mocking something on the net would cheer me up.

Burnwinter wrote:

Sorry, truly I am. Long day at work, thought mocking something on the net would cheer me up.

Like i said no need to apologise.
Was asking for it though expected one of Capi's toxic one-liners!
Now off to find out what those deep seated probs are

Captain wrote:

Give it until the end of september to make a judgement on any team.

But you said we'll win the league Capi, now you're saying you won't reveal our final position till September- I got all excited for nothing now.....

Truth is, we all know that United will get the marginal calls towards the end of the season (as they always do) and will pick up enough points to finish top three. Chelsea look a bit 'Arsenal' right now and won't keep the pace. City are champions elect but we'll see how they do if they lose Kompany for any length of time and when Yaya goes away in january. Arsenal have the quality but not necessarily the right blend at the moment.

Nobody else has a chance.

Better?

Mostly I'm absolutely gutted that I took Arsenal at 12s and they have now gone out to 20.

As I said in the other general football thread 10 games is about the right amount of games to assess properly where we might finish because by then we'll have faced every type of team and played a few away games and a few home games.

Can we change the thread to Premier League 2012-13?

Tony Montana wrote:

As I said in the other general football thread 10 games is about the right amount of games to assess properly where we might finish because by then we'll have faced every type of team and played a few away games and a few home games.

It wouldn't have been enough last season and it wouldn't have been enough in 2007-2008 when we only lost one game till around December and still finished 3rd. Man United last year looked like they would be out of the race early on last year given that they lost 6-1 at home while City were breaking goal scoring records by the dozen.

General Mirth wrote:

Tony Montana wrote:

As I said in the other general football thread 10 games is about the right amount of games to assess properly where we might finish because by then we'll have faced every type of team and played a few away games and a few home games.

It wouldn't have been enough last season and it wouldn't have been enough in 2007-2008 when we only lost one game till around December and still finished 3rd. Man United last year looked like they would be out of the race early on last year given that they lost 6-1 at home while City were breaking goal scoring records by the dozen.

Last season only Bolton, City and United led the league table. Given Bolton's eventual relegation they must have only led at the beginning of the campaign. United and City led throughout the rest of the season so it would have been fair enough after 10 games to suggest either City or United would win it. In the end, City won it by goal difference.

This is what I'm talking about. Spurs were doing really well reaching the heights of 3rd place and even then they only finished 4th, one point behind us in 3rd. It was a bit much to claim Spurs would win the league but not to suggest that they could finish in CL places.

I'm not saying you can predict exact places. After 10 games it is enough to properly analyse where we might finish. So if we're first after 10 games it's not exactly stupid to suggest that's where we'll end up come May. We could well finish as low as 4th as well but it won't be with a 20 odd points difference like last season. Whoever is in the top 3 after 10 games in October/November will be likely the winner of the league as opposed to some team languishing in the bottom half before raising their game to finish top. Everton can do that but only reach 8th - 6th place.

In 2007-08 we led the league at points in October and November. In the end we finished 3rd but only 4 points behind the leaders, United, who also were very near the top throughout the campaign bar the first 3 games or so.

Tony Montana wrote:

As I said in the other general football thread 10 games is about the right amount of games to assess properly where we might finish because by then we'll have faced every type of team and played a few away games and a few home games.

Can we change the thread to Premier League 2012-13?

Yep, would be good if someone change it. General football can continue using that thread actually? So that we don't need to create a general football thread every season

I could bump it Klaus if you like. I am pretty good at it!

Klaus wrote:

Create a new one called Premier League 2012-13 instead. We need one for non-PL football too.

All PL stuff generally gets discussed in the We fucking win the fucking league fucking now! thread.