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Lionel Messi

Klaus

Rivaldo for a few years was one of the best one-man shows I've seen. Still don't think I've ever seen a better individual performance than that hattrick against Valencia where he did this:

Captain

Klaus:

Captain

Couldn't find a video of the whole thing but Henry was immense that day.

Klaus

It's definitely up there.

What I love the most about that goal is how fucking mean it is. Henry humiliates the best right back in the world just because he can. He lets Zanetti know exactly what he's going to do and then he does it. There was nobody who could stop him.

Mirth

Clrnc wrote:
Can't imagine if Barca had this front 3 at their peak.

Ronaldinho Henry Messi

Anyway, anybody watched Messi's ITV documentary? Shows how amazing he is

They had Henry-Eto'o-Messi in 08-09 and the three of them score 100 goals combined. Frankly it's all been downhill since then.

Claudius

Captain wrote:
There's definitely something a bit soulless about Messi's football. Maybe he is just too good.

I think it's the speed at which he does everything. He seems to be on Red Bull (TM) the whole time. I know what you mean about soul though. Watching guys like Rivaldo, Bergkamp, Ronaldinho, Riquelme, etc, there seems to be some salsa or fox trot to their game. The whole body moves and deceives opponents - the hips swerving, heads turning, shoulders dropping. It can be magical. I want someone like that at Arsenal. Now

Mirth

On peak form:

Riquelme or Xavi/any other creative midfielder this decade?

Captain

Loads of guys ahead of Riquelme for me, even the young ones like Cesc and Ozil.

Clrnc

Riquelme is too perculiar for me. Needs the whole team to be built around him otherwise he won't be effective whatsoever.

Captain wrote:
I came to the conclusion a while back that Messi is, in fact, a robot. They made him in the lab at la masia, forget all the nonsense about growth hormones, they were just the research years.

Was thinking about this too watching the documentary. No other reason how can someone dribble so ridiculously good and take defence out singlehandedly match after match.

Klaus

General Mirth wrote:
On peak form:

Riquelme or Xavi/any other creative midfielder this decade?

Depends on what you mean by "creative" but Pirlo is easily the best midfielder I've seen the last decade. Xavi has never had the same range in his game. Scholes was better than Xavi too.

Riquelme wasn't close to neither of them apart from perhaps that one peak season. He was stupendously talented but also incredibly fragile mentally. I'd put him in the same bracket as Juan Sebastian Verón, who's another player who never delivered on his full potential. Veron reached higher heights with Lazio than Riquelme ever did though.

Timbob

Ummm...Zinedine Zidane....?

Coombs

Lol. Duh.

Klaus

He was pretty good to be honest.

kamikaze

messi is just ruthlessly efficient. no wasted movement, no unnecessary flicks or showboating. there's no egotism or swagger to his game. he doesn't play to entertain us or to defeat or embarrass his opponents. i'm not sure i've ever even seen him acknowledge that defenders exist. he is all about doing what's best for the team, which is scoring and creating goals, and he does it in euclidean fashion, taking the shortest possible distance (in a manner of speaking) to achieve those aims.

Coombs

Hehe...shortest...

Timbob

Messi is the best I've ever seen, and he's got to be right up there as one of the best of all time already. It's also true however, that there have been one or two other 'greats' over the years who are in Messi's ballpark when it comes to the raw stats-Di Stefano, Gerd Muller, Pele (obviously) etc.

Shinda

kamikaze wrote:
messi is just ruthlessly efficient. no wasted movement, no unnecessary flicks or showboating. there's no egotism or swagger to his game. he doesn't play to entertain us or to defeat or embarrass his opponents. i'm not sure i've ever even seen him acknowledge that defenders exist. he is all about doing what's best for the team, which is scoring and creating goals, and he does it in euclidean fashion, taking the shortest possible distance (in a manner of speaking) to achieve those aims.

I totally agree with you, Messi is the most efficient footballer I have ever witness in my entire life. There isn't one ounce of showboating in his game. That his why a lot of people don't seem to rate, people want to be entertain while watching football match.

When you watch Zidane play you see an entertainer, an artist at work. When you watch Messi you see a freak of nature that just score or create at will

Rex

I think that he is soooo dominant that a lot of people don´t really appreciate what he does. You have come to expect it. He really does some amazing things almost every game he plays.

Not many people raised an eyebrow I´d guess when he scored 5 in the CL the other week. He got 5? Ah well.

Claudius

I hope Romaldo tops him tomorrow. I want to see those pompous twits effectively lose the title against Madrid.

RonBurgundy

I hope Barca fans appreciate how many unbelievable footballers they've had at their club. Just in recent years they've had - off the top of my head, and just looking at attacking players - Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Deco, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romario, Figo, Kluivert... Christ. And that's without their current crop of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc, Villa. Most of those are (or will be) legends of the game. Looking further back, they also had Cruyff, Laudrup, Stoichkov, Guardiola... apologies to any players I've forgotten!

Scary stuff.

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