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van Persie sold to Man United

RonBurgundy

Robin could go goalless and assistless for the rest of the season and it still wouldn't change anything for me. Remember this has been the longest season he's ever had at the club.

Timbob

Everyone knows RVP has been brilliant this season and over the season has been the best in the league.

My observation is that in certain games against certain teams he's left fighting a very lonely battle up front because he's not a very conventional pure striker and he's not suited to doing certain things. Sometimes we struggle to get the ball in to his feet because he's surrounded by giant centre backs and he's not the greatest at holding the ball up or fighting for scraps. The result is that we can get pinned back-see 2nd half of Fulham away or 1st half of Utd at home for examples.

Burnwinter

He wasn't at fault for the "great chance" Kenny saved. That was not a sitter by any stretch of the imagination, it would've had to have been a superb finish.

Coombs

But we've become quite used to superb finishing from him. Anything less is, well...less!

Burnwinter

True, just think it's a little skewed the way people have been talking about it as if it was "make or break" for the match. If we're relying on Van Persie to slot home chances like that in general, we're failing (and looking at our recent away wins, it's probably fair to say that we ARE failing in many cases).

y va marquer

I was hoping to play as a second striker... I never thought I would end up as a main striker,” Van Persie told Arsenal Player. "We only tried it [at Arsenal] when Adebayor went to Manchester City [in 2009].

"The boss didn't buy anyone else because he was convinced I could do it, but I wasn't even convinced I could do it.
I had not really played there that much, and I hadn't thought about it much before
"The boss said, 'I think you can do it, give it a go and see where it ends. Play your normal game, don't go out there to score, go out there to enjoy yourself and help the team'

“I had a go and then in pre-season we had a game against Inter Milan and I scored good goal and played well, and he told me after the game, 'We will see how it goes, I am 100 per cent sure it will work'.

Then in my first five or six [league] games I didn't score, I was making assists and playing well, but I didn't score and I thought, 'I am a main striker now, I need to score' and the boss said, 'I don't mind that, as long as you play well for the team, giving assists, the goals will come'.
"When I scored my first goal I then scored seven in seven, with seven assists, so that was quite good. That was my first step to being a main striker."

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/van-persie-how-i-evolved-as-a-striker

Patters

Nice article. The main reason behind Robin's emergence as one of the world's best players is his fitness. He has been fit for the last 15 months and he has shown what he can do. Maybe the change in position also had something to do with it.

The more interesting question is, if we had a good all-out striker when Robin came back from injury last year, and we played Robin as a no.10 - would he have been as good as he is now? Obviously he wouldn't have scored as many goals with our main striker (someone like Adebayor ...but better and not a cunt) getting goals, but could he have imitated Bergkamp to any great effect?

I honestly don't know. Before these past 15 months, I always thought of Robin as a scorer of great goals rather than a great goalscorer. His skill set seemed to lend itself to more to a Dennis role. Lets hope Wilshere takes up that role when he comes back from injury.

y va marquer

That whole Wenger enjoy your game, help the team, an assist is as good as a goal philosophy is something that they're encouraging in Theo too, he's echoed that a few times recently in interviews.
If it eventually brings out a more prolific goal scorer in him then we'd be getting places.

speedy

Yep Dalglish should say it to his lot. Remove some of the pressure to score so the chances are easier to finish.
Maybe Wenger said it to Ade to often tho.

YounGunner

Just read this on twitter from an Arsenal fan lol

Gonna be hated for this but, I'd swap Torres for Van Persie every day of the week. RVP will never have a season like this again.

Klaus

The problem with that reasoning is that Torres looks like he'll have a lot more seasons like this.

spacemanspiff

That has to be a joke. It's sad that anybody could be so stupid.

y va marquer

You'd want to be off your rocker to exchange Van Persie for Torres.
Why would somebody even suggest it?
It's a judgement that ignores each player's form over the past 12 months (and longer for Torres).
Strange.

Patters

Must've been a child.

Regardless of how they compare ability-wise, don't we, as fans, like our players? He's our captain and he's someone who understands what it means to play for the Arsenal. I wouldn't swap Robin for anyone. I want my club to do as well as possible whilst retaining the core and spirit of the club. To do what Man City have done and remove their entire squad in a few years to win a trophy...I don't see any glory in that and I don't want my club to go down that path. I take more pride in players like Robin leading us out.

lorddulaarsenal

y va marquer wrote:
You'd want to be off your rocker to exchange Van Persie for Torres.
Why would somebody even suggest it?
It's a judgement that ignores each player's form over the past 12 months (and longer for Torres).
Strange.

Also disregards emotional attachment of players to the club

Well funny

Claudius

Has to be the daftest thing I've ever read. We should sign him up on One More in the Tolly.
Would only trade RVP for those 50 goal boys from Spain

FantasticMrFox

Timbob

Any Irish lads catch Liam Brady talking about RVP on Setanta the other day? Apparently he pretty bluntly said that RVP was simply waiting to see how much we're going to offer him financially. He knows we cant give him the same as Man City but he has a figure in mind and if we meet it he'll sign, regardless of CL, new signings, etc. Is this accurate/true?

Gazza M

i wouldn't rule that out actually

flobaba

Timbo wrote:
Any Irish lads catch Liam Brady talking about RVP on Setanta the other day? Apparently he pretty bluntly said that RVP was simply waiting to see how much we're going to offer him financially. He knows we cant give him the same as Man City but he has a figure in mind and if we meet it he'll sign, regardless of CL, new signings, etc. Is this accurate/true?

And how would Liam Brady know this.?

Doubt it's true, even if he said it.

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